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October 27, 2006
Deciding Where to Move Again
Note: This is a duplicate post from the main page of my site since that hasn't been updated in months and I suspect nobody reads it anymore.
I haven't decided where I'm moving to yet, but several places appealed to me for different reasons. There's a good chance I'll only be moving for a year or two, so this doesn't have to be a place where I "settle," just livable and interesting enough to call home for a time. I'd like to get people's feedback on the most likely contenders at this point (in no particular order):
Philadelphia, PA
The biggest city that I'm seriously considering, Philadelphia has great architecture, cool neighborhoods and housing stock, fairly diverse population, a healthy local scooter scene, tasty vegan food, close proximity to NYC, Washington DC and other mid-east cities, not to mention the beautiful pine barrens of New Jersey. Downsides: the weather probably wouldn't be much of an improvement over Chicago, and people say that it's not a very "friendly" city, plus higher cost of living than most of the others on my list.
Nashville or Knoxville, TN
I just love the climate and scenery in this part of the country...still a little taste of winter, but mild compared to the midwest. Nashville is the biggest city in the state and has a great little scooter community (though no local scooter shop). Nashville is centrally-located and offers reasonable flight prices to other places, though it is a bit lacking in cool neighborhoods and architecture. Knoxville is smaller but has some good things going for it, especially Yee-Haw Industries, cost of living and its proximity to the mountains. Memphis has gotten too bland for me to consider moving there, and while Chattanooga has some great scooter folks and a pretty setting, it didn't make a strong impression on me as a city. So as far as TN is concerned, I would move to Knoxville if I could work with YHI, otherwise Nashville looks like my top choice.
Louisville, KY
Louisville has a lot of the same appeal as the TN cities, weather- and scenery-wise, and a low cost of living. Lots of great architecture and cheap housing stock, a decent amount of hip young people, and seems fairly vegan-friendly. Close to Cincinatti, which is a great scooter town and nice place to visit. The downsides are its proximity to the state of Indiana, and the fact that I'd have to drive across the length of Indiana to get back to either Chicago or my hometown in Michigan, and that's 5 or 6 hours of punishment each way in a car. It also has no real scooter scene that I could see.
Southern Louisiana
New Orleans made quite an impression on me, I was shocked at the destruction still present in so many areas. I got a great tour from a local guy named Chris and had a great talk with him about the state of affairs there. Simply put, New Orleans needs help, badly. They've only got 1/3 of their population and a LOT of work that needs to be done. Since there are so many houses still uninhabitable the housing market is probably tough, and I'm not sure where I would fit in there job-wise...I've been wanting to do something besides graphic design full-time, so maybe I could swing a hammer or something and pick up some new skills. A move to New Orleans would be more for the charity of helping it recover in some small way, but the very hot weather, roads, crime and food would probably be tough. Moreover, it seems that they've only applied a band-aid solution to the levee problem that destroyed the city last year, and with the yearly hurricanes and the oceans rising from global warming, who's to say that the city won't be underwater again soon? It really is a magical place and it would be a shame for it not to be rebuilt, but if it is to be, there needs to be more done to protect it in this vulnerable spot. I also really loved Lafayette, LA, a small city a couple of hours to the west. Really great people and the heart of Cajun/Zydeco music; Lafayette is a cool small city in the heart of Cajun country. I'm probably not seriously considering a move to Lafayette at this point, but it was a very special place and I can't wait to visit again.
Other cities I'd love to live in, but am not considering too seriously right now:
Toronto, Canada and New York City
Both are world-class, liberal enough, super-diverse and have so much to offer culturally, with great food and scooter scenes. On the other hand both have a cold winter and I'm not sure if I have the money and/or ambition to tackle either right now, Toronto offers the additional hurdle of being in another country so there'd be issues with having a legitimate job there. New York blows my mind every time I visit, it's just expensive and almost overwhelming. Hopefully someday.
Portland, Oregon
My friend Aaron Draplin is sure that I'd love Portland, I've never been there but from most everything I've heard it sounds like I probably would. A lot of the same things I loved about Minneapolis, with better weather and scenery. But after this epic journey around the east and south, I feel like my next move should be somewhere I've just been...I'm sure Portland will still be amazing in 2-3 years, maybe I'll move there then.
I'm also interested in hearing people's opinions for "write-in" suggestions, there are certainly other places I'd consider, but these stood out to me as making the most sense right now. Ideally I'm looking for: a milder winter, cheap-ish to medium cost of living, decent vegan food options, good housing stock and interesting architecture (ie the whole downtown hasn't been razed for malls and parking lots), somewhat progressive (or at least not backwards) atmosphere, availability of organic produce and/or good health food store(s), good neighborhoods to walk and spend time in, at least one artsy theater and one good video store, the less interstates and strip malls the better, proximity to some good scenery, availability of cute (and hip) girls around my age, and having other scooter folks around. I realize I can't have it all, but the more of those things the better.
I've been doing some reading at bestplaces.net and other similar comparative websites. Please post your comments here or e-mail me directly at pjchmiel {at] yahoo [dot} com. Thanks for any feedback you may have.
Posted by pj at October 27, 2006 01:45 AM
Comments
Based on what you're looking for, I bet you'd dig Seattle. Scooters and other two wheel transportation options are big in this town, although Portland has us beat on bike paths, a decent form of mass transit, and housing costs. The city limits offer a diverse range of neighborhoods, and strip malls and chain restaurants are a rarity. There are a handful of decent vegan options; check happycow and get your ass out West.
Posted by: Aaron K at October 30, 2006 12:41 PM
Hi PJ,
I've been enjoying reading your adventures for a few weeks now. I think you should definitely consider the West Coast. Portland is nice, Seattle is good and Vancouver (BC, Canada) is wonderful too. Cost of living depends very much on what part of town you live in (obviously), but all of these three places have most of the things you are looking for... including the cute girls ;) Good luck! And thank you for sharing your travel stories and photos with us! ~ Amalia (in Vancouver).
Posted by: Amalia at October 30, 2006 03:35 PM
"availability of cute (and hip) girls"
Really, girls always love boys on scooters (as a lady with a scooter and lover of scooter boys I feel I have authority on this one). I doubt you will have a problem with the ladies no matter where you go, you're cute as a button!
Posted by: jedi beth at November 1, 2006 01:39 PM
There's only room for one pair of knee high mocassins in philly.
Posted by: kencredble at November 1, 2006 05:14 PM
Philly's winters can still be pretty cold, but I think you'd find a substantial improvement compared to Chicago. The average high in January is 40. Other than the weather, I think Philly meets most, if not all, of the criteria. Everyone is different, but I lived in the south for eleven years and even though I lived in a medium sized city, the overall conservatism of the state was stifling--I had to get out of there--not sure if you would feel the same way--my views are pretty far left. On the other hand, Portland, OR is a great city and I'd move there if my family was out there. I think that meets all of your criteria too with a slightly milder climate than Philly. Flowers bloom there all winter.
Posted by: arvid at November 7, 2006 09:33 PM
I agree with Amalia - the cities of the Pacific Northwest are exactly what you're seeking. I've lived in several parts of the country, including the midwest and the south, and while you can find some surprisingly-hip enclaves there, in these three cities, you have to try to find the shitty parts. I am, of course, biased toward Seattle, and I think you would love the Fremont neighborhood.
Of course, like you said, these cities will still be here and still be awesome in 2 or 3 years. Make your next RAMBLE out west and I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself in the PNW.
Posted by: jeremyseattle at February 7, 2007 06:43 PM